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		<title>By: Gandalf Tel Celeb</title>
		<link>http://www.haibane.info/2010/01/18/does-the-ring-turn-sauron-invisible/comment-page-1/#comment-4715</link>
		<dc:creator>Gandalf Tel Celeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 16:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elrond&#039;s ring is Vilya.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elrond&#8217;s ring is Vilya.</p>
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		<title>By: Gandalf Tel Celeb</title>
		<link>http://www.haibane.info/2010/01/18/does-the-ring-turn-sauron-invisible/comment-page-1/#comment-4714</link>
		<dc:creator>Gandalf Tel Celeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2010 17:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gandalf Tel Celeb is in elvish</description>
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		<title>By: Gandalf Tel Celeb</title>
		<link>http://www.haibane.info/2010/01/18/does-the-ring-turn-sauron-invisible/comment-page-1/#comment-4713</link>
		<dc:creator>Gandalf Tel Celeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2010 17:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It strikes me as funny, how Sauron has Hundreds of thousands of orks, the Nazgul, the wild men, the easterlings, Saruman and his orks, and the Haradrim, and The Great Eye, but Gollum gets hi &quot;Precious&quot; back all by himself. In the Hobbit he calls the Ring &quot;My birthday Present&quot;, and calls himself Precious.
If any body is wondering, Gandalf Tel Celeb means, Gandalf the Silver. I think that silver is a cooler coler than White.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It strikes me as funny, how Sauron has Hundreds of thousands of orks, the Nazgul, the wild men, the easterlings, Saruman and his orks, and the Haradrim, and The Great Eye, but Gollum gets hi &#8220;Precious&#8221; back all by himself. In the Hobbit he calls the Ring &#8220;My birthday Present&#8221;, and calls himself Precious.<br />
If any body is wondering, Gandalf Tel Celeb means, Gandalf the Silver. I think that silver is a cooler coler than White.</p>
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		<title>By: Gandalf Tel Celeb</title>
		<link>http://www.haibane.info/2010/01/18/does-the-ring-turn-sauron-invisible/comment-page-1/#comment-4712</link>
		<dc:creator>Gandalf Tel Celeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2010 17:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cirdan is not a ring bearer for long. He gives his Ring to Gandalf, and its name is Narya The Ring of Fire. Galadriel has Nenya, and Elrond has the third ring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cirdan is not a ring bearer for long. He gives his Ring to Gandalf, and its name is Narya The Ring of Fire. Galadriel has Nenya, and Elrond has the third ring.</p>
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		<title>By: Gandalf Tel Celeb</title>
		<link>http://www.haibane.info/2010/01/18/does-the-ring-turn-sauron-invisible/comment-page-1/#comment-4711</link>
		<dc:creator>Gandalf Tel Celeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2010 17:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Sigivald: The Ring has Sauron&#039;s own blood in it. It DOES think like Sauron. He put the molten gold in his hand and plunged a dagger into his hand to let the blood flow into the gold. Look it up in a book called Lord of the Rings Weapons and Warfare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Sigivald: The Ring has Sauron&#8217;s own blood in it. It DOES think like Sauron. He put the molten gold in his hand and plunged a dagger into his hand to let the blood flow into the gold. Look it up in a book called Lord of the Rings Weapons and Warfare.</p>
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		<title>By: Gandalf Tel Celeb</title>
		<link>http://www.haibane.info/2010/01/18/does-the-ring-turn-sauron-invisible/comment-page-1/#comment-4710</link>
		<dc:creator>Gandalf Tel Celeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2010 17:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conrad Barwa is right, that the Ring doesn&#039;t make you invincible. If it did Frodo could have just killed the Nazgul on Weather top because he was invincible. The shrinking, and growing was never mentioned in the books. I geuss it was Peter Jacksons way of saying that the Ring already senses a new bearer, and forms a &quot;plan&quot; so to speak to get  back to Sauron by using that person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conrad Barwa is right, that the Ring doesn&#8217;t make you invincible. If it did Frodo could have just killed the Nazgul on Weather top because he was invincible. The shrinking, and growing was never mentioned in the books. I geuss it was Peter Jacksons way of saying that the Ring already senses a new bearer, and forms a &#8220;plan&#8221; so to speak to get  back to Sauron by using that person.</p>
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		<title>By: Gandalf Tel Celeb</title>
		<link>http://www.haibane.info/2010/01/18/does-the-ring-turn-sauron-invisible/comment-page-1/#comment-4709</link>
		<dc:creator>Gandalf Tel Celeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2010 16:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gollum goes on, and on, because he possesed the Ring ALOT longer. It makes him WANT it i so badly that his soul won&#039;t die untill he has it again. 500 years is a long time to have The One Ring. Bilbo only had it 50 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gollum goes on, and on, because he possesed the Ring ALOT longer. It makes him WANT it i so badly that his soul won&#8217;t die untill he has it again. 500 years is a long time to have The One Ring. Bilbo only had it 50 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Gandalf Tel Celeb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gandalf Tel Celeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2010 16:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason why Sauron didn&#039;t sense the Ring was because he had not come into power again yet, and The Eye was not fully formed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason why Sauron didn&#8217;t sense the Ring was because he had not come into power again yet, and The Eye was not fully formed.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaan Naktin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaan Naktin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant discussion! 

I read the books as a kid and watched the movies as they came out and just re-watched the movies again with my kids. I certainly don&#039;t think the original book ever &quot;showed&quot; the battle sequences in which Sauron &quot;wore&quot; the ring - the movie is forced to be rather literal in portraying this event, as it also shows the ring shrinking to accommodate a smaller wearer&#039;s finger. How much ability does the ring have to shrink or grow and what is the default size it assumes? I think it would be funny if it retained its original large size, rendering it even more difficult to carry for the hobbit Frodo - haha!

As far as it&#039;s magical abilities, the invisible question is also tough. Why did they have to torture Golum to get &quot;Shire&quot; and &quot;baggins&quot; when the ring calls out to Sauron and Bilbo wears it at his birthday party - wouldn&#039;t that have been enough time to see where it was?

Also, why does Bilbo start to age almost immediately after he stops possessing the ring, but Golem goes on and on? 

I don&#039;t worry too much about these questions, but love that people find it interesting and discuss it... can&#039;t wait for the Hobbit movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant discussion! </p>
<p>I read the books as a kid and watched the movies as they came out and just re-watched the movies again with my kids. I certainly don&#8217;t think the original book ever &#8220;showed&#8221; the battle sequences in which Sauron &#8220;wore&#8221; the ring &#8211; the movie is forced to be rather literal in portraying this event, as it also shows the ring shrinking to accommodate a smaller wearer&#8217;s finger. How much ability does the ring have to shrink or grow and what is the default size it assumes? I think it would be funny if it retained its original large size, rendering it even more difficult to carry for the hobbit Frodo &#8211; haha!</p>
<p>As far as it&#8217;s magical abilities, the invisible question is also tough. Why did they have to torture Golum to get &#8220;Shire&#8221; and &#8220;baggins&#8221; when the ring calls out to Sauron and Bilbo wears it at his birthday party &#8211; wouldn&#8217;t that have been enough time to see where it was?</p>
<p>Also, why does Bilbo start to age almost immediately after he stops possessing the ring, but Golem goes on and on? </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t worry too much about these questions, but love that people find it interesting and discuss it&#8230; can&#8217;t wait for the Hobbit movie.</p>
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		<title>By: kcom</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 21:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;and the holders of the Elven Rings (two cases elves Galadrield and Cirdan) do not succumb to the temptations of power&quot;

Keep in mind that it&#039;s stated in the books that Sauron had no direct role in forging the Elven rings and never touched them.  That&#039;s why the wearers of the Elven rings don&#039;t have a temptation to succumb to evil, because there is no evil in those rings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;and the holders of the Elven Rings (two cases elves Galadrield and Cirdan) do not succumb to the temptations of power&#8221;</p>
<p>Keep in mind that it&#8217;s stated in the books that Sauron had no direct role in forging the Elven rings and never touched them.  That&#8217;s why the wearers of the Elven rings don&#8217;t have a temptation to succumb to evil, because there is no evil in those rings.</p>
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