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		<title>By: Evil Otto</title>
		<link>http://www.haibane.info/2009/06/30/fire-warden-of-kalimdor/comment-page-1/#comment-2757</link>
		<dc:creator>Evil Otto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 02:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grats!

It&#039;s definitely rare for a low-level to do that. Since all that counts towards the Flame Keeper title, next year you won&#039;t have to do it again if you don&#039;t want to. And compared to what you&#039;ve done, the fires of Outland are easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grats!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s definitely rare for a low-level to do that. Since all that counts towards the Flame Keeper title, next year you won&#8217;t have to do it again if you don&#8217;t want to. And compared to what you&#8217;ve done, the fires of Outland are easy.</p>
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		<title>By: fledgling otaku</title>
		<link>http://www.haibane.info/2009/06/30/fire-warden-of-kalimdor/comment-page-1/#comment-2755</link>
		<dc:creator>fledgling otaku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just completed the Achievements, Extinguishing the Flame and Fire arden, for Kalimdor. I am level 24. I dunno who else did this at a low level, but surely I cant be the only one. Am I?

now, I want to get me some Fire Festival gear... i think ihave to spend these Fire Blossoms by friday..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just completed the Achievements, Extinguishing the Flame and Fire arden, for Kalimdor. I am level 24. I dunno who else did this at a low level, but surely I cant be the only one. Am I?</p>
<p>now, I want to get me some Fire Festival gear&#8230; i think ihave to spend these Fire Blossoms by friday..</p>
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		<title>By: Fledgling Otaku</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fledgling Otaku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually, I was browsing some thotbott forums and some users claim that Blizzard has moved the zone boundary to the mountains, so you cant get into Wintergreen that way. Hopefully thats not the case for Silithus, too. There were some spots between Desolace and Feralas where the deep water went right up to the land&#039;s edge, making swimming somewhat hairy - I had to strike out across the dark blue area and get fatigued in a couple of places since there was nowhere else to swim. In both cases the deep water stretch was fairly short so I made it without taking any fatigue damage. When I drowned for access to Moonglade, I think I had about a solid two minutes from the time I first saw the fatigue bar to taking maximum fatigue damage, so that should be enough to cross all but the largest stretches of deep water.

However, Anachronda told me a better trick than swimming to gain access to high level zones - die and then board a boat as a spirit. The intercontinental journey hands you off to a different server, so you are able to res at any graveyard on the destination continent. Its a tedious method but less so than swimming painstakingly around the outer rim. I plan to try this today - the benefit is that I can actually use it to bounce between continents on each run and pick up some eastern bonfires too. lets see how it goes.

incidentally, I grabbed Tanaris, both Horde and Alliance, yesterday. Both are just outside the Gadgetzan city walls so it was trivially easy. I tried to run through Thousand Needles from there and made it past the salt flats by running along the canyon wall, but when I got to the narrow canyon I was toasted quite quickly. I&#039;ll try it again via the corpse-hop method when I  have more patienmce. I really think I can get both bonfire achievements for Kalimdor by the festival deadline if I am efficient about it (and my 2yr old cooperates).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually, I was browsing some thotbott forums and some users claim that Blizzard has moved the zone boundary to the mountains, so you cant get into Wintergreen that way. Hopefully thats not the case for Silithus, too. There were some spots between Desolace and Feralas where the deep water went right up to the land&#8217;s edge, making swimming somewhat hairy &#8211; I had to strike out across the dark blue area and get fatigued in a couple of places since there was nowhere else to swim. In both cases the deep water stretch was fairly short so I made it without taking any fatigue damage. When I drowned for access to Moonglade, I think I had about a solid two minutes from the time I first saw the fatigue bar to taking maximum fatigue damage, so that should be enough to cross all but the largest stretches of deep water.</p>
<p>However, Anachronda told me a better trick than swimming to gain access to high level zones &#8211; die and then board a boat as a spirit. The intercontinental journey hands you off to a different server, so you are able to res at any graveyard on the destination continent. Its a tedious method but less so than swimming painstakingly around the outer rim. I plan to try this today &#8211; the benefit is that I can actually use it to bounce between continents on each run and pick up some eastern bonfires too. lets see how it goes.</p>
<p>incidentally, I grabbed Tanaris, both Horde and Alliance, yesterday. Both are just outside the Gadgetzan city walls so it was trivially easy. I tried to run through Thousand Needles from there and made it past the salt flats by running along the canyon wall, but when I got to the narrow canyon I was toasted quite quickly. I&#8217;ll try it again via the corpse-hop method when I  have more patienmce. I really think I can get both bonfire achievements for Kalimdor by the festival deadline if I am efficient about it (and my 2yr old cooperates).</p>
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		<title>By: Evil Otto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evil Otto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I assume you mean Winterspring. ;-) Truth to tell, I&#039;ve never tried that. I don&#039;t know if there&#039;s a similar spot on the coast that is part of Winterspring, but if there is there&#039;s no reason it wouldn&#039;t work.

The Feathermoon trick should save you some time, but it&#039;s still a long swim, and there&#039;s a patch between the island and the mainland where you become fatigued if you swim it. Not sure if you can cross it before dying. If it&#039;s too big, you can end up unable to retrieve your body and be forced to spirit rez. 

If you aren&#039;t using it already, mapWoW.com is a great resource, sort of a Google Maps for Azeroth. It might show you the best ways in and out of areas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I assume you mean Winterspring. <img src='http://www.haibane.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Truth to tell, I&#8217;ve never tried that. I don&#8217;t know if there&#8217;s a similar spot on the coast that is part of Winterspring, but if there is there&#8217;s no reason it wouldn&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>The Feathermoon trick should save you some time, but it&#8217;s still a long swim, and there&#8217;s a patch between the island and the mainland where you become fatigued if you swim it. Not sure if you can cross it before dying. If it&#8217;s too big, you can end up unable to retrieve your body and be forced to spirit rez. </p>
<p>If you aren&#8217;t using it already, mapWoW.com is a great resource, sort of a Google Maps for Azeroth. It might show you the best ways in and out of areas.</p>
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		<title>By: fledgling otaku</title>
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		<dc:creator>fledgling otaku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 03:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for Silithus, i can fly to Feathermoon and then swim from there, should be shorter. Also, why cant i just swim around to wintergreen too? would that work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for Silithus, i can fly to Feathermoon and then swim from there, should be shorter. Also, why cant i just swim around to wintergreen too? would that work?</p>
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		<title>By: Evil Otto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evil Otto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, you&#039;re making good progress!

The Moonglade trick works... just watch to see that you&#039;re in that zone (a small patch of water north of Auberdine) and drown yourself. However, the tunnel that leads out is filled with rather angry lvl 50-something monsters. There&#039;s a whole (hopelessly dull) series of quests and reputation grinding you can do to get them to not kill you on sight, but at your level you&#039;ll be in for long, repeated corpse-runs if you try and leave Moonglade that way

That trick will work for Sithilus, though it&#039;s a *LONG* swim. There&#039;s a similar spot if you keep swimming around the coast you can drown and rez in Silithus. 

As far as the Eastern Kingdoms go, you&#039;re in for a rough ride. Many of the bonfires are inland, often in high-level zones (Burning Steppes is going to be a NIGHTMARE). Your best bet is a guildie... not sure if it would work, but see if someone has a war mammoth or motorcycle mount... those allow passengers to ride along, and you might be able to get an 80 to drive you in, let you grab the fire, and ride out. Hopefully, your presence on the mount won&#039;t aggro anything. 

As far as fires go, it&#039;s generally just as easy for Hordies to desecrate Alliance fires. I only had one Alliance player even TRY to attack me, and he was a lvl 16 going after my lvl 80 death knight. I have no idea why he attacked me, because my pet ghoul killed him before I could even react. 

The good news is that next year you shouldn&#039;t have any problem finishing the achievements and getting yourself a nifty &quot;Flame Keeper&quot; title.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, you&#8217;re making good progress!</p>
<p>The Moonglade trick works&#8230; just watch to see that you&#8217;re in that zone (a small patch of water north of Auberdine) and drown yourself. However, the tunnel that leads out is filled with rather angry lvl 50-something monsters. There&#8217;s a whole (hopelessly dull) series of quests and reputation grinding you can do to get them to not kill you on sight, but at your level you&#8217;ll be in for long, repeated corpse-runs if you try and leave Moonglade that way</p>
<p>That trick will work for Sithilus, though it&#8217;s a *LONG* swim. There&#8217;s a similar spot if you keep swimming around the coast you can drown and rez in Silithus. </p>
<p>As far as the Eastern Kingdoms go, you&#8217;re in for a rough ride. Many of the bonfires are inland, often in high-level zones (Burning Steppes is going to be a NIGHTMARE). Your best bet is a guildie&#8230; not sure if it would work, but see if someone has a war mammoth or motorcycle mount&#8230; those allow passengers to ride along, and you might be able to get an 80 to drive you in, let you grab the fire, and ride out. Hopefully, your presence on the mount won&#8217;t aggro anything. </p>
<p>As far as fires go, it&#8217;s generally just as easy for Hordies to desecrate Alliance fires. I only had one Alliance player even TRY to attack me, and he was a lvl 16 going after my lvl 80 death knight. I have no idea why he attacked me, because my pet ghoul killed him before I could even react. </p>
<p>The good news is that next year you shouldn&#8217;t have any problem finishing the achievements and getting yourself a nifty &#8220;Flame Keeper&#8221; title.</p>
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