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	<title>Comments on: enjoying Gedo Senki</title>
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		<title>By: chevron</title>
		<link>http://www.haibane.info/2007/07/12/gedo-senki/comment-page-1/#comment-2815</link>
		<dc:creator>chevron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 01:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It strikes me that the majority of viewers/reviewers completely miss the point of this film.  They watch it expecting an epic storyline, or at least some coherent plot (perhaps not too unreasonable an expectation, even for fans of Japanese cinema who are accustomed to words-of-wisdom in their films!).  It is the message that takes centre-stage in this film, not the story itself.

I&#039;m minded to write a mini-essay on this over at myanimelist, so I&#039;ll save my thoughts for that.  Suffice to say, if you watch this film and are puzzled by the  story, dont try to make sense of it.  Not becasue its particularly confusing, but becasue if you&#039;re trying to understand the story aand its world, you&#039;re approaching the film &#039;wrongly&#039;.  Almost every detail that [b]does[/b] make the film - and especially those bits that annoy reviewers! - can be related to the philosophical message, instead of the plot.  Rewatch it and see how much you can pick out :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It strikes me that the majority of viewers/reviewers completely miss the point of this film.  They watch it expecting an epic storyline, or at least some coherent plot (perhaps not too unreasonable an expectation, even for fans of Japanese cinema who are accustomed to words-of-wisdom in their films!).  It is the message that takes centre-stage in this film, not the story itself.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m minded to write a mini-essay on this over at myanimelist, so I&#8217;ll save my thoughts for that.  Suffice to say, if you watch this film and are puzzled by the  story, dont try to make sense of it.  Not becasue its particularly confusing, but becasue if you&#8217;re trying to understand the story aand its world, you&#8217;re approaching the film &#8216;wrongly&#8217;.  Almost every detail that [b]does[/b] make the film &#8211; and especially those bits that annoy reviewers! &#8211; can be related to the philosophical message, instead of the plot.  Rewatch it and see how much you can pick out <img src='http://www.haibane.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: gift to and from</title>
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		<dc:creator>gift to and from</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 00:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>blah blah blah</description>
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		<title>By: death do us part</title>
		<link>http://www.haibane.info/2007/07/12/gedo-senki/comment-page-1/#comment-1787</link>
		<dc:creator>death do us part</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello! not many ppl write on the thing do they? all well! i do hope more ppl write i would like to know what other ppl think of this great movie! this year i got this movie because i colect anime movies by madman! this movie is one of my favs. well see ya later all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello! not many ppl write on the thing do they? all well! i do hope more ppl write i would like to know what other ppl think of this great movie! this year i got this movie because i colect anime movies by madman! this movie is one of my favs. well see ya later all!</p>
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		<title>By: WOODEN FISH</title>
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		<dc:creator>WOODEN FISH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello all! i think a tale from earthesa is a great film! i hope you all injoyed it too?

but i think the horse didnt really look like one...but still! great movie!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello all! i think a tale from earthesa is a great film! i hope you all injoyed it too?</p>
<p>but i think the horse didnt really look like one&#8230;but still! great movie!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Kerpan</title>
		<link>http://www.haibane.info/2007/07/12/gedo-senki/comment-page-1/#comment-1029</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Kerpan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well this movie really doesn&#039;t involve all of the initial trilogy. -- and I have no problem with this  It really only uses the third volume (Farthest Shore) -- which provides most of the plot (albeit in a rather dumbed down fashion).  Into this, Goro M poured content (characters and settings but almost no plot elements) from volume four (Tehanu) -- which actually takes place after Farthest Shore (and MUST take place after it -- as this is about Ged&#039;s life after his retirement).

My point is that &quot;Farthest Shore&quot;, treated creatively but respectfully, could have (and should have) provided more than enough material for a first rate film.  The added elements make the film more trite, not deeper.

Mind you, taken purely on its own (ignoring Le Guin), this would be a quite decent, albeit minor Ghibli film (on a par in terms of creativity with &quot;Cat Returns&quot; -- but not nearly as good as the virtually unknown &quot;Ocean Waves&quot;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well this movie really doesn&#8217;t involve all of the initial trilogy. &#8212; and I have no problem with this  It really only uses the third volume (Farthest Shore) &#8212; which provides most of the plot (albeit in a rather dumbed down fashion).  Into this, Goro M poured content (characters and settings but almost no plot elements) from volume four (Tehanu) &#8212; which actually takes place after Farthest Shore (and MUST take place after it &#8212; as this is about Ged&#8217;s life after his retirement).</p>
<p>My point is that &#8220;Farthest Shore&#8221;, treated creatively but respectfully, could have (and should have) provided more than enough material for a first rate film.  The added elements make the film more trite, not deeper.</p>
<p>Mind you, taken purely on its own (ignoring Le Guin), this would be a quite decent, albeit minor Ghibli film (on a par in terms of creativity with &#8220;Cat Returns&#8221; &#8212; but not nearly as good as the virtually unknown &#8220;Ocean Waves&#8221;).</p>
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		<title>By: fledgling otaku</title>
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		<dc:creator>fledgling otaku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 14:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, i dont think you can fairly compare a two hour movie to a trilogy of novels. Only LOTR and Harry Potter have ever succeeded in that, and that was via multiple movies of insane length. The limitations of the medium are absolute; the trick is to craft a story that fits into the world without trying to attain the same depth, but rather to complement it. In this I think Gedo Senki succeeds admirably. Why rehash the story of Ged again? It functions so much more effectively to simply introduce Ged as a fully-realized character, his history from teh novels intact. Thus, you can import that context if you&#039;ve read the novels; whereas if you haven&#039;t, it still works because the director succeeds in lending Ged the gravitas that implies his backstory, even in the absence of an explicit origin. We buy it the same way we buy Darth Vader in Star Wars (without any prequel movie neccessary).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, i dont think you can fairly compare a two hour movie to a trilogy of novels. Only LOTR and Harry Potter have ever succeeded in that, and that was via multiple movies of insane length. The limitations of the medium are absolute; the trick is to craft a story that fits into the world without trying to attain the same depth, but rather to complement it. In this I think Gedo Senki succeeds admirably. Why rehash the story of Ged again? It functions so much more effectively to simply introduce Ged as a fully-realized character, his history from teh novels intact. Thus, you can import that context if you&#8217;ve read the novels; whereas if you haven&#8217;t, it still works because the director succeeds in lending Ged the gravitas that implies his backstory, even in the absence of an explicit origin. We buy it the same way we buy Darth Vader in Star Wars (without any prequel movie neccessary).</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Kerpan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Kerpan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 14:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely lots of nice visuals -- especially with regards to the background work.  I was bothered by some of the overly recycled character designs, however.  And I really disliked the over-reliance on the crumbling stairs/buildings at the climax. 

Compared to LeGuin&#039;s original story, the film&#039;s story is fairly routine and unimaginative.  For better or worse, I can&#039;t really evaluate the film as if I was unaware of the far better story that _could_ have been shown.  Non-Earthsea fans might like this more than those attached to the original books.

(I obviously like Howl a lot more than you do  -- so I guess we aren&#039;t going to agree here_). ;~}</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely lots of nice visuals &#8212; especially with regards to the background work.  I was bothered by some of the overly recycled character designs, however.  And I really disliked the over-reliance on the crumbling stairs/buildings at the climax. </p>
<p>Compared to LeGuin&#8217;s original story, the film&#8217;s story is fairly routine and unimaginative.  For better or worse, I can&#8217;t really evaluate the film as if I was unaware of the far better story that _could_ have been shown.  Non-Earthsea fans might like this more than those attached to the original books.</p>
<p>(I obviously like Howl a lot more than you do  &#8212; so I guess we aren&#8217;t going to agree here_). ;~}</p>
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