Comments on: lechers http://www.haibane.info/2006/04/30/lechers/ a celebration of science fiction, anime, and geek culture Wed, 07 Jan 2009 03:09:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Seth Weiner, Otaku-Sempai http://www.haibane.info/2006/04/30/lechers/#comment-1241 Seth Weiner, Otaku-Sempai Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:21:45 +0000 http://www.haibane.info/2006/04/30/lechers/#comment-1241 It could just be the case that the artist is simply drawing on what is essentially a common American visual stereotype of a pervert. If you watch Law and Order SVU for example, many of the sex offenders have basically the same physical traits. The question now becomes whether or not ABe Yoshitoshi is attempting to make fun of this American stereotype. It could just be the case that the artist is simply drawing on what is essentially a common American visual stereotype of a pervert. If you watch Law and Order SVU for example, many of the sex offenders have basically the same physical traits. The question now becomes whether or not ABe Yoshitoshi is attempting to make fun of this American stereotype.

]]> By: Quorlox http://www.haibane.info/2006/04/30/lechers/#comment-116 Quorlox Wed, 03 May 2006 20:43:39 +0000 http://www.haibane.info/2006/04/30/lechers/#comment-116 I rewatched episode four last night with the clockmaker and his laugh is a little maniacal too, which probably added to my impression. I rewatched episode four last night with the clockmaker and his laugh is a little maniacal too, which probably added to my impression.

]]> By: Quorlox http://www.haibane.info/2006/04/30/lechers/#comment-109 Quorlox Mon, 01 May 2006 08:08:41 +0000 http://www.haibane.info/2006/04/30/lechers/#comment-109 I can't say exactly where the impression came from since the clockmaker never met that expectation. Maybe the environment played a part; if you compare the bakery, the library, and the clock tower, the latter is a little darker and more like a dungeon than the other two. The clockmaker is also a little more demanding as well. Combine this with how he was drawn and maybe that was enough to reach "creepy" for some of us. I can’t say exactly where the impression came from since the clockmaker never met that expectation. Maybe the environment played a part; if you compare the bakery, the library, and the clock tower, the latter is a little darker and more like a dungeon than the other two. The clockmaker is also a little more demanding as well. Combine this with how he was drawn and maybe that was enough to reach “creepy” for some of us.

]]> By: Steven Den Beste http://www.haibane.info/2006/04/30/lechers/#comment-108 Steven Den Beste Mon, 01 May 2006 02:16:36 +0000 http://www.haibane.info/2006/04/30/lechers/#comment-108 One reason that the clockmaker comes off the way he does is that he's being pulled in more than one direction. On one hand, he genuinely cares for Kana; he obviously has developed a father/daughter(son) relationship with her. On the other hand, he knows that she's going to leave, and sooner rather than later. When that happens, he's going to be really sad, and he knows from past experience that there will be no warning at all. One day she'll be there, and the next day she'll be gone forever. So it's not surprising that he comes off as a bit twisted. One reason that the clockmaker comes off the way he does is that he’s being pulled in more than one direction. On one hand, he genuinely cares for Kana; he obviously has developed a father/daughter(son) relationship with her. On the other hand, he knows that she’s going to leave, and sooner rather than later. When that happens, he’s going to be really sad, and he knows from past experience that there will be no warning at all. One day she’ll be there, and the next day she’ll be gone forever.

So it’s not surprising that he comes off as a bit twisted.

]]> By: fledgling otaku http://www.haibane.info/2006/04/30/lechers/#comment-107 fledgling otaku Mon, 01 May 2006 01:18:46 +0000 http://www.haibane.info/2006/04/30/lechers/#comment-107 maybe "freak" is more accurate than lecher, that would be a lot less jarring. The Master struck me as verging on psychotic in some ways, but I just can't think of Furusaki from SD as anything other than an honorable man. actually, you're right Quorlox - the word has got to be "creepy". Thats the definite common bond. I wonder whether similar charcaters exist in other series and whether they fit that generalized mold? I haven;t seen nearly enough anime to know. As for AD, I suppose I should keep an open mind - I can always fwd the Kimura bits if the character begins to grate on me. maybe “freak” is more accurate than lecher, that would be a lot less jarring. The Master struck me as verging on psychotic in some ways, but I just can’t think of Furusaki from SD as anything other than an honorable man.

actually, you’re right Quorlox - the word has got to be “creepy”. Thats the definite common bond. I wonder whether similar charcaters exist in other series and whether they fit that generalized mold? I haven;t seen nearly enough anime to know.

As for AD, I suppose I should keep an open mind - I can always fwd the Kimura bits if the character begins to grate on me.

]]> By: Quorlox http://www.haibane.info/2006/04/30/lechers/#comment-104 Quorlox Sun, 30 Apr 2006 21:34:31 +0000 http://www.haibane.info/2006/04/30/lechers/#comment-104 I had the same reaction to Kana's boss and I'm an American. My experience with anime is that characters drawn like that tend to be freaky in some respect. As proven by Haibane, it's not a universal feature, the character seemed initially creepy to me. I had the same reaction to Kana’s boss and I’m an American. My experience with anime is that characters drawn like that tend to be freaky in some respect. As proven by Haibane, it’s not a universal feature, the character seemed initially creepy to me.

]]> By: HC http://www.haibane.info/2006/04/30/lechers/#comment-102 HC Sun, 30 Apr 2006 21:07:16 +0000 http://www.haibane.info/2006/04/30/lechers/#comment-102 Seconded. Conventions are not universal. Although I'd add that Azumanga Daioh is truly remarkable and not to be passed by. Kimura is a minor character, appears infrequently, and isn't actually as bad as he seems. His brand of humor is not dissimilar to that of the Comeback - generating discomfort to relieve with laughter. That said, check back with Don McClane (the source of your negative comments) about his final verdict on the anime - his review only says that after pressing on he's "pleased to report that the later episodes are better than the earlier ones, and that there's less and less of Kimura as the series progresses." Seconded. Conventions are not universal.

Although I’d add that Azumanga Daioh is truly remarkable and not to be passed by. Kimura is a minor character, appears infrequently, and isn’t actually as bad as he seems. His brand of humor is not dissimilar to that of the Comeback - generating discomfort to relieve with laughter.

That said, check back with Don McClane (the source of your negative comments) about his final verdict on the anime - his review only says that after pressing on he’s “pleased to report that the later episodes are better than the earlier ones, and that there’s less and less of Kimura as the series progresses.”

]]> By: Steven Den Beste http://www.haibane.info/2006/04/30/lechers/#comment-101 Steven Den Beste Sun, 30 Apr 2006 19:54:09 +0000 http://www.haibane.info/2006/04/30/lechers/#comment-101 I think your friend is wrong. It's that simple. I think your friend is wrong. It’s that simple.

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